Rebuttal to Condor Options
Takedown #8 by Monthly Cash Thru Options - What's better, 70% probability
index iron
condors credit spreads options or 90% probability index iron condor credit spread
options?
Condor Options:
It’s been over three months since we posted a takedown, and you guys are getting
restless. So,
Monthly Cash Thru Options
is one site that people seem to request a lot. Below is our Takedown #8 of
Monthly Cash Thru Options by
Condor Options.
Monthly Cash Thru Options:
It’s humorous how a direct competitor, Condor Options, can offer an “objective”
review of our index credit spread and iron condor options advisory service. Our subscribers and prospective
subscribers are smart enough to know that they should take your comments with a
grain of salt, and regardless of how you try to make this review seem to be
objective in nature, your goal is to make us look bad. Just by the fact
that Condor Options spends their time bashing its competition tells us a great
deal about their character. Below is our rebuttal to Condor Option’s
“objective review” of Monthly Cash Thru Options, and we added a few new categories that
condoroptions did not include in their initial review; so in essence we are
reviewing Condor Options to a certain degree....but in general we don't make a
habit of, or use our precious time to bash our competition.
To kick things off, here is an email that we received unsolicited from a past
CondorOptions subscriber that was not too happy about how he was treated.
Monthly Cash Thru Options advertises through Google AdWords, and evidently our
advertisement was displayed on the Condor Option's site when this person was
taking notes and composing his nasty gram. (Note: this is typical
where websites, such as Condor Options, will frame Google Ads on their site to
generate some extra advertising revenue) This past Condor Options
subscriber jotted down some of the businesses that were being advertised at the
time on the Condor Option's
site and then sent an email to each business warning us that we should not associate with Condor
Options.
“Protect your company image and goodwill. Do not be associated
with them [Condor Options] as it could tarnish your image. The people at
Condor Options conduct business in a very unprofessional and unethical manner.
The terms of cancellation on their website say they are cancelable at anytime
with notification. They changed their website today when I brought this to their
attention. I cancelled my subscription on January 18th [2008]
and they responded back to me by email. However, I did not cancel my automatic
payment on Paypal, so on February 11th they received a payment. One
would think that this would not be a big deal, however, they refused refund the
monthly fee. Basically telling me since I did not cancel the subscription on
Paypal too bad, informing us on the website or email although nice does not
matter. They also go into these extensive unprofessional and derogatory rants
about their competitors.”
Sincerely,
Brad Filmanowicz (dated 2/18/08)
This is FYI, and a recommendation that you might want to consider treating
your customers better and be more ethical. Your amoral behavior makes
all of us in the options newsletter business look bad.
Below is another
unsolicited email from an ex Condor Options subscriber dated 2/28/09:
Thanks for trying to help me get into your [Monthly Cash Thru
Options] members section. I called my high speed cable provider and
after telling them the situation they did a test and found that they had
a
problem........ also I have been with you guys for 2 months and really
like the way you do things. There seems to be very little if any bull___t involved in what you do. I was with 3 different trading groups
last year and lost $91,000. I am not a negative person, but one of
your competitors Condor Options was the worst. In Jan 2008 it was
a 95% loss. They then said it would never happen again because they
screwed up. Come Oct 2008 (9 months later) the loss was 100%. This
is what I mean by too much BS. It's becoming more difficult to
find a company that cares about its clients. Keep up the good work.
Thanks again,
Don Monthly Cash Thru Options: It seems to us that
CondorOptions should spend less time bashing its competition and spend more time analyzing
the markets and their recommended iron condor entry points and strike prices so
their customers will have fewer of these devastating losses.
Condor Options:
What does Monthly Cash Thru Options provide?
An options newsletter publishing credit spreads and iron condors.
While the basic strategy is sound (hint: we trade iron condors too), we have
some serious questions about the risk management and long-term viability of the
approach taken on this site.
CondorOptions:
Honest marketing –
Pass
To be honest, we couldn’t
track down much in the way of marketing for this site in the first place, so
they kind of get a pass by default. When you look at some of the
worst offenders in this industry (”turn $20 into $2 million in 2 weeks,”
etc.), any company that isn’t spending half its time and effort on marketing
starts to look like a godsend. Really. So give MCTO a pat on the back for not
being sleazy in the marketing department. That said, we do find one
mismatch between their advertising and the actual trades published: MCTO sells
itself as a non-directional newsletter, but a very large portion of their trades
turn out to be vertical credit spreads, which are directional trades.
Monthly Cash Thru Options: We at Monthly Cash Thru Options pride ourselves in being honest and having
integrity. We don’t engage in sleazy marketing tactics that many of the
directional services use. It’s amusing how the directional services
continuously advertise their winners, but most, or practically all do not
provide their actual returns that include both their winners and losers.
Monthly Cash Thru Options posts its monthly returns right on its
website at
http://www.monthlycashthruoptions.com. We achieved 50% in 2005, 42% in
2006, 63% in 2007 and 33% in 2008.
Regarding your comment about Monthly Cash Thru Options not offering
non-directional trades, this is NOT correct. Our newsletter
primarily focuses on far out-of-the-money (OTM) credit spreads (not debit
spreads) and iron condors, which represent a sideways, non-directional
strategy. Not sure where you came to this conclusion since it’s obvious by
reading just the first paragraph on our home page.
In addition to our primary focus of non-directional, income generating index
credit spreads and iron condors, Monthly Cash Thru Options also periodically
throws in directional bonus trades to take advantage of macro level trends, and
for these we use directional debit spreads, calls and puts. As of early March
2009, we’ve compiled a list of fundamentally sound companies with B++ rated
balance sheets or better, that sold-off 40% or more during the Oct 2008 crash, technically are showing the ability of having a good chance of partially recovering by the end
of 2009, and should return 150% to 300% in about 6 to 10 months. This
longer term bullish strategy, where we're opening Jan 2010 calls or bull call
spreads, is based on the presumption that the world is not coming to an end and that the
stock market will partially recover by the end of 2009. To see some of
the companies that have come out of our scan, the methodology that we used to
develop the scan, and the additional technical analysis that we
do, please go
ExampleDirectionalAdvisories.
Condor Options:
Repeatable
returns - Pass
We’re giving them a pass
here, too: the performance data available seems thorough enough. There is a bit
of ambiguity in the performance tables - certain adjustments made to trades were
hard to follow on a first glance, and there were often wide ranges posted as the
possible credit for a given trade. While it’s commendable to note honestly that
a given trade may have generated between $0.90 and $1.25 in credit (rather than,
say, just pretend that everyone could have been filled at the best possible
price), that’s a large enough difference to warrant a bit of concern, if only
because the high-risk, low-credit nature of their strategy means every nickel
and dime is absolutely essential.
Monthly Cash Thru Options:
Monthly Cash Thru Options is realistic and honest with its returns as shown on
our ROI track record page. Please visit
ReturnOnInvestment to see the
details of our returns of 50% in 2005, 42% in 2006, 63% in 2007 and 33% in 2008.
Per your comments about how the Monthly Cash Thru Options approach is a
high-risk, low-credit strategy, we’ll cover this topic below.
Regarding Condor Option's returns, we noticed that they removed their
monthly returns from their website, and we know why. The Condor Options
Trades for Jan 2008 and October 2008 had close to 100% losses. This is one
of the
disadvantages of doing tighter, 40% to 60% probability credit spreads and iron
condors. When we have big, quick moves in the underlying index like we had during
Jan and Oct of 2008, these tighter trades give the trader less time to make
adjustments and many times the trade will go ITM and take a 90% to 100% loss. We
talk more about the pros & cons of 40% to 60% probability iron condors versus 90%
probability iron condors (Monthly Cash Thru Options focuses on 90% trades) at
90percentVersus70Percent.
Condor Options:
Risk management
- Fail
Which brings us to our
primary concerns. First is the question of asset allocation. A browse through
the site’s FAQ yields the following interesting bit of information:
“The MCTO team follows the philosophy of putting 80% of our portfolio into
credit-type, non-directional trades to generate a consistent monthly cash flow
and about a 50% ROI annually, and then taking 20% of our portfolio and try to
“swing for the fences” with other types of directional option trades…we
recommend that our subscribers first get 80% of their portfolio productive
through the lower effort, less stressful and more consistent credit-type,
non-directional option trades to achieve an outstanding 4% to 7% monthly return
or 50% or more annually - which is what this advisory focuses on.” On its
face, this is actually a totally reasonable approach to allocation: put the bulk
of your capital into long theta and other boring positions, and leave a little
room for directional home runs. But if you were a new subscriber to
Monthly Cash Thru Options and
you read the paragraph above, would you have the impression that you should be
putting 80% of your capital into MCTO trades? We would. Even if that’s not what
the publishers intend to say, the asset allocation discussions on the site never
bother to mention that a reasonable approach to
asset allocation means spreading your capital across a lot more than just
two or three positions. Elsewhere on the site, they say: “You
can also allocate up to 100% of your portfolio to this single index credit
spread system….which is not the case for most other trading systems.”
That’s a much clearer statement of their view, and the thought of someone
dumping 100% of their portfolio into one or two RUT iron condors every month is,
from a risk management perspective, just horrifying. So when they say “we
recommend that our subscribers” do X and X doesn’t include a serious discussion
of proper portfolio management, well that’s a major cause for concern.
Monthly Cash Thru Options:
Thank you for pointing out the fact that
someone new to credit spreads might attempt to allocate a large % of their
portfolio to a few trades. We refined the text in our web site to make our
asset allocation model clearer. In summary, we state that Monthly Cash
Thru Options subscribers can allocate up to 75% of their portfolio to two or
three credit spreads and iron condors only after they have been trading this
strategy for at least a year, and preferably 2 or more years, allowing them to
build up their experience, knowledge and confidence with this strategy.
Please note that when we say 2 or 3 credit spreads or iron condors per month, if
the underlying index becomes volatile in a particular month and starts to move,
we would be opening additional spreads with different strike prices, on the same
underlying index and in the same month, as we maneuver around the underlying
index to maintain a wide “safe zone”. We do our best to maintain Delta
neutral on our iron condors. For more on this topic, please visit the
Monthly Cash Thru Options
FAQ page and read the entry entitled
"what % of my portfolio could I allocate to iron condors that are based on 90%
probability trades?".
Condor Options:
Second, the strategy employed here
is fundamentally riskier than the strategy that we use, and the reasons why
aren’t at all intuitive, so it’s easy to get confused on this issue. To get
right to the point, there are basically two approaches to trading iron condors
and credit spreads:
High-risk, low-credit:
you open an iron condor with a really wide body, say 20% or something like that
between the short strikes, accept a relatively minuscule amount of credit, and
hold to expiration. The advantage of this approach is that it generates what, on
paper, look like much higher probability trades, meaning that they should have a
higher likelihood of expiring out of the money, allowing you to keep the small
amount of credit generated by the trade.
Monthly Cash Thru Options:
The folks at Condor Options have been
drinking their own Kool-Aid way too long and are simplifying their “high-risk,
low-credit” argument by only considering one variable - risk capital per trade.
Most Index iron condor & credit spread newsletters fall into two camps, either
recommending 70% probability trades or 90% probability trades. Monthly
Cash Thru Options only uses 90% probability trades because we believe they
represent the best balance between risk and
reward, providing an excellent 45% to 65% annual ROI. Condor Options uses 70% probability trades
and they will lead you to believe that
their strategy is superior
by simplifying their argument by only focusing on the amount of risk capital
per trade. Reality is that both 70% trades and
90% trades will work, but one needs to dig deeper into the analysis of both approaches.
Below we propose a more thorough methodology to analyze the risk associated with
70% probability iron condors versus 90% probability iron condors, discuss
the pros and cons of each approach, attempt to dispel possible misinformation
in the marketplace, and make a case that 90% trades offer the best risk/reward
tradeoff with the least amount of stress and work.
When defining “risk” for credit spreads and iron condors options, most
experienced credit spread traders will agree that risk comprises many
components. Two of the more important components are...1)
Probability of the credit spread going in-the-money (ITM), and 2) The risk
versus potential reward of the trade. Additional risk related factors that
should be included and that many times are omitted are the following: 3) The
amount of time and effort required to monitor and manage the trades; 4) The
amount of time available to react to a fast moving underlying security giving
the trader sufficient time to make adjustments if needed; 5) The average number
of times per year the trades get into moderate danger, that is they get close to
going ITM, causing stress and uncertainty for the trader; 6) The average number
of times per year that the spreads get into high danger requiring the trader to
close out the spread or make adjustments, causing a losing month; and 7) The
average % loss for each of the losing months per year.
Using an example of a 10 point spread, and doing an apples-to-apples comparison
by analyzing a single credit spread, let’s look at both a 70% probability trade
and a 90% probability trade in more detail. The 1.3 standard deviation, or 90%
probability credit spread has a 9 to 1 ratio where the trade risks $9 to make
$1, it shoots for an approximate 11% return, it has a 90% probability of
expiring OTM and profitable, and has a 10% probability of getting into trouble
and going ITM. The 1.0 standard deviation, or approximate 70% probability
credit spread has an 8 to 2 ratio where the trade risks $8 to make $2, it shoots
for an approximate 25% return, it has a 70% probability of expiring OTM and
profitable, and has a 30% probability of getting into trouble and going ITM.
In order to analyze these two scenarios in more detail, we need to take into
account the additional risk related components that we discussed above. From
data that we’ve extracted from several iron condor services, and through our own
experiences of trading both types of iron condors, we’ve observed the
following:
90% probability iron condors tend to have on average 9 to 10 profitable
months/year, and 2 to 3 losing months/year with typical losses of 10% or less.
Per the level of workload and stress involved, 90% probability trades tend to
have 6 months of low stress where they make easy money, 3 to 4 months of
moderate stress where no adjustments are required but some of the spreads get
under pressure and have to be watched closely, and 2 to 3 months of higher
stress and workload where they will have a loss and adjustments are required to
keep the loss below 10%.
70% probability credit spreads tend to have on average 7 to 8 profitable
months/year, and 4 to 5 losing months/year with losses usually 10% or less. Per
the level of workload and stress involved, 70% probability trades tend to have 3
months of low stress where they make easy money, 4 to 5 months of moderate
stress where no adjustments are required but some of the spreads get under
pressure and have to be watch closely, and 4 to 5 months of high stress and
workload where they will have a loss, and adjustments are required to keep the
loss below 10%.
Below is a grid that summarizes the characteristics of each approach, and one
might come to the conclusion that both strategies can work. In actuality, both
strategies can work and each strategy returns about the same annual returns,
over the long run, but the big difference is that the 70% trades come with
higher volatility, stress, required work, and risk of getting hit with a big
loss if the underlying security moves quickly.
|
Characteristics Summary of
90% and 70% probability Iron Condors |
% probability
that Iron Condor will stay OTM and expire 100% profitable |
|
90% |
70% |
|
Description of strategy |
Wide mouth
iron condors; very wide safe zone |
Tighter
strike prices around the underlying index |
|
Risk capital versus return for best case
iron condor |
Risk $9 to
make $1.40 |
Risk $8 to
make $3.20 |
|
Typical targeted return in 30 to 45 days
for an iron condor (comprises a bull put and a bear call spread)
|
10%-15% |
25% to 40% |
|
Typical annual return on risk capital |
45% to 65% |
15% to 90% |
|
Average number of profitable months/year |
9 to 10 |
7 to 8 |
|
Average number of months/year iron condor
generates "easy money" and has low stress level |
6 |
3 |
|
Average number of months/year and
associated probability that iron condor will get under pressure
generating a moderate level of stress and some additional workload to
watch the trade closely |
3 to
4 about 20% |
4 to 5 about 40% |
|
Average number of losing months/year and
associated probability where iron condor gets close to going ITM, and
adjustments are needed causing higher levels of stress and required
time. With adjustments, losses are usually 10% or less. |
2 to
3 10% |
4 to
5 30% |
|
Amount of time to react to a fast moving
underlying index |
Ample |
Limited |
|
Chance of having a large loss if underlying
index moves rapidly |
Moderate |
High |
From looking at
the chart above, some traders prefer the 70% probability iron condors, that comprise both a bear
call spread and bull put spread, that shoot for a 25% to 40% return in 30 to 45
days and they accept the fact that: 1) There is about a 40% probability, or
about 4 to 5 months/year that their iron condor will get under pressure causing
a moderate level of stress and requiring additional time to watch the trade
closely; 2) They accept the fact that there is a 30% probability, or about 4 to
5 months/year that their iron condor will get into high danger by a quick moving
underlying index resulting in a high level of stress and a higher work load to
make adjustments to minimize the loss for the month; 3) And investors that
embrace 70% probability iron condors are ok with the fact that because of the
higher probability of the iron condor going ITM causing a large loss, they
should allocate no more than 5% of their portfolio to any single trade. As a
result, the trader will need to spend time researching and opening additional,
non-related trades to put their available capital to work.
In contrast, some traders like the 90% probability iron condors that shoot for a
10 to 15% return in 30 to 45 days and they like the fact that: 1) There is a
high, 90% probability that the iron condor will expire OTM and profitable, and
as a result there is less work & time involved, it’s more hands-off, the trader
sleeps better at night when the market gets volatile, and it's a good fit for
people with a day job; 2) There is low stress about 6 months per year when the
90% probability trades generate “easy money”; 3) Traders that embrace 90%
probability iron condors accept the fact that there is about a 20% probability,
or about 3 to 4 months/year that their iron condor will get under pressure
causing a moderate level of stress and requiring additional time to watch the
trade closely; 4) There is a 10% probability, or about 2 to 3 months/year that
the iron condor will get into high danger by a quick moving underlying index
resulting in a higher level of stress and workload to make adjustments to
minimize the loss for the month; and finally... 5) The experienced traders that
have 2+ years of experience with index credit spreads & iron condors can
leverage 90% probability trades to allocate up to 75% of their portfolio into
this single strategy where they don’t have to trade any other strategies if they
don’t desire or have the time.
In summary, both strategies can work since they both return, at least over the
long run, about the same ROI, but the 90% probability trades come with less
volatility, stress, work, and less risk of taking a large loss if the underlying
moves quickly. Moreover, 90% probability trades are more hands-off, the
trader will sleep better at night when the markets get volatile, and it's a
perfect strategy for people with a day job. This is why Monthly Cash Thru
Options only uses 90% probability trades. To view this article
on-line, please go to 90percentVs70percent.
Condor Options:
Medium-risk, high-credit:
with this approach, you open trades that have a narrower body, and thus a lower
probability of expiring out of the money, and in return for that lower
probability you receive a significantly higher credit up front. The advantage of
this approach, besides the obvious one of a higher potential profit, is that the
higher initial credit acts as a buffer against losses in the event of a spike in
the underlying.
Monthly Cash Thru Options:
We cover this topic above. And Monthly Cash Thru Options shows all returns on its website
at
ReturnOnInvestment;
On the other hand, Condor Options
removed their returns from their website in early 2008 because they had too many
huge losses in the 95%
range and they wiped out many of their subscriber's portfolios.
Condor Options:
This is a site takedown, not a trading
article, so we won’t get too detailed here, but on first glance it may seem that
approach #2 is the riskier one, right? Your probability of the trade expiring
worthless is lower, so doesn’t that make the strategy riskier? Not exactly. In
trades following approach #2, you might risk $1 to make $0.65, and your trades
may have about a 50-70% chance of success. In trades following approach #1, you
might risk $1 to make $0.10, and your trades may have about a 90% chance of
success. The reason that approach #1 is actually a much higher-risk strategy is
that you’re putting a lot more capital at risk for such a small reward, and that
dramatically unbalanced risk-reward ratio means that the occasional loss will
have a much, much harsher impact.
Example: for January 2008
expiration, MCTO sold the SPX 1330/1340 put vertical for a $0.75 credit. That
means that one contract of this trade would put $925 at risk in order to make
$75.
Monthly Cash Thru Options
uses this high-risk approach to trading iron condors and credit spreads, but
doesn’t admit the higher risk involved.
Monthly Cash Thru Options:
Yes, this is the typical risk/reward ratio
for a far out of the money credit spread, and it works nicely. We covered
this topic above.
Condor Options:
Finally, like so many condor trading
sites out there, MCTO insists on trading the big index products like SPX, RUT,
MID, etc. That’s fine for institutions and professional traders, but new and
smaller retail traders are at a distinct disadvantage when using those products
instead of the corresponding ETFs (SPY, IWM, etc.). We’ve written about this
many times before so we’re not going to rehash old points, but suffice to say
that using those bigger products only makes the risk management process more
difficult for individual traders.
Monthly Cash Thru Options:
We primarily trade credit spreads and iron
condors on the RUT and the SPY, just like what Condor Options does.
We stopped trading the SPX years ago since the liquidity was too low. As all experienced traders know, it’s wise to focus on
just a few underlying
indexes because we need to become an expert at knowing how the indexes will
move in different market conditions. Our new subscribers with smaller
trading accounts can follow our trades on the SPY.
Condor Options:
Reasonable Price -
Fail
This is kind of a subjective
determination, but from what we can tell MCTO publishes one, two, or sometimes
three iron condors or credit spreads per month. At $85 per month, it’s not
particularly pricey, but then, you also get what you pay for: there’s no blog or
other ongoing educational aspect that we could find, and the educational content
that
is
available isn’t all that detailed and is mostly of an introductory and/or
practical nature (e.g.: “what are credit spreads?” “How to tweak the bid on your
order”). The content on the site in general isn’t well organized and has all the
charm of a text dump. They don’t offer autotrading.
Monthly Cash Thru Options:
Monthly Cash Thru Options charges $85/month
which is an excellent value for the amount of information and analysis that our subscribers
receive through the service. We continuously hear from our subscribers that
our advisories are top-notch and offer the most detailed analysis of the overall market and the
underlying indexes we trade as compared to any of our competitors, including Condor
Options. To see what a typical advisory looks like please visit
ExampleAdvisories. Our
advisories look very different that what you will see from Condor
Options or any other iron condor newsletters. To see what some of
our subscribers are saying about Monthly Cash Thru Options, please read some of
our testimonials at
Testimonials.
We also here from our subscribers that we have the most complete Learning Center
with myriad case studies and tons of risk/reward pictures and screen shots
clearly explaining the details of credit spreads, iron condors, and the debit
spreads, puts and calls that we use for our directional trades. You can
view our Learning Center at
LearningCenter. We also try to keep things as
simple as possible using minimum techno speak.
We are on schedule to
start offering auto trading in late March 2009, and our blog for our
subscribers will be up and running in early April. Regarding our
educational content, as we mentioned many times above, our Learning Center
is unmatched and Condor Options doesn't come even close to offering what we
offer. Please see for yourself at
LearningCenter.
In contrast, the Condor Options team has no Learning Center, what is deemed as
learning is buried in their blog archives so they are hard to find, the Strategy Guide
is incomplete and they’ve been promising to complete it for the last year, (this
would be the closest thing to our Learning Center), they spew out a lot of
“journalism”, but most of it is academic in nature, it’s difficult to read, the
author seems to love his thesaurus and tries to use as many difficult words as
possible, and overall most of it is useless in making money. Just as an
example of some of the phrases that you see in just about every post.
*The
VIX futures term structure has moved into backwardation.
*The slight negative delta bias will be offset by delta-driven gains.
*Are short-term extremes in horizontal implied volatility skew predictive of
short-term mean reversion in the underlying?
*The negative gamma risk outweighs the positive theta risk at less than 4 weeks
out.
No kidding, these are real sentences in their blog posts, and
it's pretty typical.
Just about every post is peppered with complex words and written in a very
difficult style. So get ready to pull out your dictionary folks. I
personally want to laugh out loud when reading the Condor Options posts.
(and we do understand our Greeks, like delta, gamma, theta...but when we
feel that it's necessary to discuss them we'll make our explanations clear
and easy to understand) Monthly Cash Thru Options focuses on practical information with tons of
pictures, graphs, screen shots and clear explanation (no dictionary required)
that is useful for both beginners and advanced traders to learn the index credit
spread and iron condor strategies and to make money. We
pride ourselves of telling our subscribers everything we are thinking about when we
make a trade. We don’t hide our secret sauce, but tell all.
Condor Options:
In fact, we may be able to save you the
subscription fee altogether: every other week or so, pull up your options chains
on SPX/RUT/MID, and find a trade that generates about $0.50 or so (that is to
say, gives you $50 in return for you putting about $950 at risk). Let the trade
expire worthless, or exit at the market price the day before expiration if it’s
in the money. That’s about it!
Monthly Cash Thru Options:
This is far from the truth, and we wish it were that easy. If it were, then everyone would be doing it and
this strategy would no longer be paying 45% to 65% annually. We need
to be nimble and move with the ebb and flow of the market and the underlying indexes that
we open trades on. Our strategy is to first start with initial
strike prices, just like what Condor Options does, but we then constantly adjust our strike prices
as the indexes move allowing us to keep far out of the money credit spreads in a
reasonable neutral delta state. We call this “staying ahead of the
wave” strategy, where we are constantly moving our strike prices, bringing in
premium, and doing our best to keep our spreads in the same month. I
believe Condor Options calls this “flock of condors”….and this subject is not
yet covered on their website, and we’re not sure how much of this strategy is
used. For Monthly Cash Thru Options, we’ve been using this strategy since 2006 and it reduces
our risk considerably.
NEW Category: Quality of Weekly Advisories
and Willingness to Teach and Tell-all:
(this was not part of the original Condor Options review)
Monthly Cash Thru Options:
Monthly Cash
Thru Options writes second-to-none weekly advisories as compared to any of our
competitors. We perform detailed technical analysis on the major indexes,
the VIX, and the underlying indexes that we trade (usually the RUT and SPY) each week,
we show screen shots of the daily and weekly charts, give thorough
interpretations of what drove the market the prior week and what will most
likely drive the market and our underlying indexes in the
upcoming week, and explain the technical analysis that we did. We hear
from our subscribers often that we offer a lot of detail but make it readable
and understandable for people with different skill levels. Read what
Monthly Cash Thru Options subscribers are saying about our service at
Testimonials. We enjoy teaching
this powerful strategy and we tell all and don't hide
anything, so our subscribers usually become good technicians and credit spread
traders in about 12 to 18 months. To view what the Monthly Cash Thru Options
advisories look like, please visit
ExampleAdvisories.
In contrast,
Condor Options shows very few charts, they don’t share what technical analysis they
do
on the underlying indexes, much less teach their subscribers. They recommend a certain credit
spread or iron condor option trade with very little information on how they made
their
decisions on strike prices and timing of when to enter a trade. They do
output a lot of "journalism" through a blog, but most of it is academic in
nature, it's hard to read, you will need to pull out your dictionary since they
love to write like it's an academic journal, and most of it is available for free
through their home page and blog; So it's not really worth paying their
high $139/month price for the value and quality that you get.
Below is one of their quotes in
their website; they don't want to teach you everything since they want
you to keep paying their high $139/month price:
We use a
Condor Options branded secret sauce to determine the range of the spreads we
work with. But we’ll give you a hint that the formula includes ingredients
such as std. deviations, historical volatility, implied volatility and the price
of tea in China.
NEW Category:
Ability or willingness to make adjustments or to roll ITM credit spreads: (this was not
part of the original Condor Option review)
Monthly Cash Thru Options:
The Monthly
Cash Thru Options team hates to lose money and we'll do whatever it takes to
adjust credit spreads and/or roll them, even if they go ITM to minimize our loss during the handful
of difficult months we'll have each year. We have many case studies
in the Learning Center that cover multiple adjustment strategies.
One of our adjustment strategies is called “staying
ahead of the wave”, and we have a specific case study in our Learning Center
entitled "what happens if the market surges and puts out bear call spreads at
risk...how do we protect ourselves?". You can see a preview of this case
study by going to the Monthly Cash Thru Options
LearningCenter. The staying ahead
of the wave strategy has a good track record of usually keeping our losses
during our losing months below 10%. And because we open 90% probability
trades, we typically have 2 losing months each year, versus 3 to 5 losing months
per year that you'll have with 70% probability trades.
Condor Options says on their website that they are the “only iron condor service
that recommends and teaches how to open multiple spreads with varying strike
prices at different times"...called a condor flock. This is NOT true and
it's false advertising. This seems to be the same as the "staying ahead of
the wave strategy" that Monthly Cash Thru Options has been using for 4
years.
And when a trade gets into trouble -
like going ITM, the folks at Condor Options will just throw in the towel and let
their subscribers take a huge loss. Condor Options had a 95% loss in Jan
2008 and a 100% loss in Oct 2008. They don't bother with rolling and just
let their subscribers lose all of their money. In contrast, we at
Monthly Cash Thru Options won't give up, and in the unfortunate event that some
of our spreads go ITM, we'll roll them until we get back at least 65% of our original risk capital.
We have many case studies in our Learning Center on rolling ITM spreads.
Condor Options:
Conclusion
We weren’t sure where to put
this last point, but MCTO imposes this bizarre requirement that all subscribers
open multiple accounts for trading their picks. We’ll let them explain:
Here is an example of why we
need multiple accounts: Let’s say you have a SPX July 750/760 Bull Put Spread.
Now the SPX (S&P 500 index) rallies and you would like to open a SPX July
760/770 Bull Put Spread to push your spread up a little closer to the underlying
SPX index. If you try to open this new spread in the same account, your short
760 Put will cancel out the long 760 Put and you will end up with a 20 point
wide 750/770 bull put spread. We want to keep the spreads 10 points wide and not
20 points. Thus, you will need to open up a secondary account to hold trades
that would normally overlap with existing trades in your primary account.
That’s just absurd and weird. A 20 point wide spread is no riskier or different
in any way than two 10 point spreads that have an overlapping strike. Maybe
they’re working with a broker that is hostile to options trading and imposes
draconian margin requirements or something.
Monthly Cash Thru Options:
It's not bizarre at all. When trading 10 point spreads on the RUT which
only offers 10 point increments in strike prices, a secondary
account is needed.
In the above example, if we didn't already
have an associated bear call spread creating the iron condor, we could have
opened the 760/770 bull put spread in the same account, thus creating a 20
point spread. However, if we do already have an "attached" bear call
spread creating an iron condor, and we end up creating a 20 point bull put
spread, the broker's computer will disconnect these spreads and the required
maintenance will double. Therefore, we do our best to maintain the same
point spread for both the top spreads and bottom spreads in order to minimize the
risk of having to double pay maintenance.
On the other hand, we
don't need to do this when opening trades on the SPY since options on the
SPY are available in 1 point increments, giving us more granularity when
"clicking up" and "clicking down" our strike prices.
Condor Options:
When you consider the minimal
education, the poor portfolio management, the old-school SPX preference, and the
high-risk strategy - not to mention the prefab template website straight out of
the early 1990s - there are definitely better newsletters out there than
Monthly Cash Thru Options.'
Monthly Cash Thru Options: We're not sure what site you've
been looking at, because it must not have been ours. Regarding your
comment about the SPX, we haven't traded it in years because it lacks liquidity;
we primarily trade the SPY and RUT, just like you do.
In conclusion, as
compared to Condor Options, Monthly Cash Thru Options offers: More
"where the rubber meets the road" education and case studies with dozens of
risk/reward graphs to make the information easy to understand - (your
articles are more academic in nature, are hard to read and are unnecessarily
complex, and many won't help your subscribers make more money); Our
weekly advisories are second to none and offer a lot more detail, (yours
offer less than half of the detail that we offer...go to our site and see
for yourself); We focus on 90% probability credit spreads which give
us more time to react if the market quickly moves against us...and if it
does, we are also experts at making adjustments and we teach our subscribers
how to do them with the help of the many case studies in our Learning
Center; these adjustments help us avoid huge losses (you had two 95%+ losses
in 2008, and when one of your spreads gets into trouble you seem to just
throw in the towel and let your subscribers lose everything, which is very
sad); We enjoy teaching, we tell-all and we don't hide anything so our
subscribers become competent credit spread traders who can "graduate" in
about 12 to 18 months (you hide a lot of information with the goal of
holding onto your subscriber base); Our returns are better and
they are posted on our website, (yours aren't); We have fewer losing months
per year, typically two, and our losses during these losing months are
usually -10% or less, and because we have fewer losing months our system is
less stressful; (you have 3 to 5 losing months per year translating into
more stress for your subscribers); Our web site is clean, well
organized and easier to navigate (yours is based on the blog posting model
where its rather confusing and it's hard to find things); And our
price per month is almost half of what you charge.
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