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		<title>Question about setting autotrade amount per trade and how it impacts existing trades for Option Trading</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 00:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>bradrr</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Question:  If I increase my autotrade option trading amount to $10,000 per trade, but already have qty 8 of the RUT Dec 670/680 Bull Put Spread that was placed in my account when my autotrade amount was set to $8,000/trade, should I expect the autotrade service to know to handle only 8 contracts, for example [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Question</strong>:  If I increase my autotrade option trading amount to $10,000 per trade, but already have qty 8 of the RUT Dec 670/680 Bull Put Spread that was placed in my account when my autotrade amount was set to $8,000/trade, should I expect the autotrade service to know to handle only 8 contracts, for example if we were forced to roll the RUT Dec 670/680 bull put spread into January?</p>
<p><span id="more-396"></span><strong>Answer</strong>:  Yes, the Monthly Cash Thru Options autotrade option trading service would only roll 8 contracts of the RUT Dec 670/680 bull put spread into January, if we needed to roll it.  The new cash level per trade that you select for autotrading will not affect the existing spreads and adjustments that we make to them.  You can change your autotrade cash amount per trade at anytime, even mid-stream during the month,  and not impact existing trades.</p>
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		<title>Why don&#8217;t we open the entire index iron condor option at the same time?  It looks like you open the credit spread options individually.  Why?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2011 08:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>bradrr</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Insight into analyzing potential credit spread option trades]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Question:  Why don&#8217;t we open the entire iron condor at the same time?   It looks like you tend to open credit spreads individually, focusing on one side of the iron condor at a time.   Why? Answer:  We rarely open a complete iron condor at the same time as it’s best to open one side at a [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Question</strong>:  Why don&#8217;t we open the entire iron condor at the same time?   It looks like you tend to open credit spreads individually, focusing on one side of the iron condor at a time.   Why?</p>
<p><span id="more-366"></span><strong>Answer</strong>:  We rarely open a complete iron condor at the same time as it’s best to open one side at a time, based on what the underlying is doing.   When we have a strong UP day, it’s best to focus on the top bear call spreads and “sell calls” to the bullish speculators because they are getting excited that the market is rallying, they&#8217;ve been thinking that the market is ready to rally, and they are willing to pay more for the Calls.  Since we are a seller of the Calls, we will be able to bring in more premium on the UP days.   It also allows us to select strike prices that are farther out-of-the-money (OTM) and safer where we can still bring in a reasonable level of credit.</p>
<p>On the other hand, when we have a strong DOWN day, it’s good to only focus on the bottom bull put spreads;  the bearish speculators are getting excited, they’ve been thinking that the market is ready to correct so they buy more Puts, and they are willing to pay more for them since the market is DOWN that day.   Since we are the sellers of these Puts, we’ll be able to click farther down in strike price to a safer level, and still be able to bring in a reasonable premium.</p>
<p>Our goal each month is to ultimately complete the iron condor, but we are opening one side at a time.</p>
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		<title>Question about clicking down to a lower strike price if the underlying RUT, SPY or OEX index starts to drop, and if we should close our existing credit spreads first</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 00:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>bradrr</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Question:  I’ve been watching the trades for a few months and would like to try one of my own now. I understand that you recommend when starting out to start small, with at least $1000 and preferably start with the RUT.  Say I sell the RUT Feb 680/690 bull put spread.   Am I done for [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Question:</strong>  I’ve been watching the trades for a few months and would like to try one of my own now. I understand that you recommend when starting out to start small, with at least $1000 and preferably start with the RUT.  Say I sell the RUT Feb 680/690 bull put spread.   Am I done for the month until you say to sell the Bear Call Spread to complete the iron condor, or do I close out the existing 680/690 bull put spread before opening the next trade?</p>
<p><span id="more-348"></span><strong>Answer:</strong>  You would open the recommended RUT bull put spread when it’s filling for between our recommended price range, let&#8217;s say between 48 and 95 cents credit, and then you would hold onto the spread through expiration.  You then would watch the underlying RUT index to make sure it stays above the short 690 put that you sold.   If the RUT starts to pull back and if it gets within 15 points of your short 690 put, you will need to start preparing to roll the spread either down into the same month, or out into the following month.  Right now it’s not necessary to worry about this scenario since there is a very low probability that this will happen.   If you are curious about rolling, please visit the Learning Center at <a href="http://www.monthlycashthruoptions.com/LearningCenter.htm">http://www.monthlycashthruoptions.com/LearningCenter.htm</a>  and you’ll see a bunch of case studies on how to do a roll.  In the case that we need to do a roll, we send out detailed instructions to our subscribers on what/when/how to do the roll.</p>
<p> <strong>Question:</strong>   My confusion comes from where you say to click down a strike to keep your credit between 48 and 95 cents for people who are writing more than one spread.  At the point where it is necessary to click down to open another spread should I close the existing spread that I have and click down to sell again or just keep the original spread open?</p>
<p><strong>Answer:</strong>   You would hold onto all of your existing spreads if you are forced to click down.   Let’s say you are holding the RUT Feb 680/690 bull put spread.   A week later the RUT starts to drop and the RUT Feb 680/690 bull put spread starts to fill for more than our recommended maximum price of 95 cents.  In this case you would click down to the RUT Feb 670/680 bull put spread.  You would also need to put this spread in a different account as the 680 strikes will overlap.  (we do our best to maintain 10 point spreads in our accounts when using the RUT as it provides flexibility when we open the top bear call spreads to complete the iron condors)   In parallel, we would be watching the original RUT Feb 680/690 bull put spread and will need to adjust it if the RUT pulls back too far.</p>
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		<title>Question about how many RUT, SPX, SPY or OEX credit spread options to open in a particular month</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 00:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>bradrr</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Question:   How many contracts would you normally sell a month? 5?, 10? Answer:   It depends on how much cash you plan to invest in credit spreads for the month.   It’s good not to put all of your eggs in one basket, so it’s probably not wise to invest more than 50% of your portfolio in [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><span id="more-351"></span>Question:</strong>   How many contracts would you normally sell a month? 5?, 10?</p>
<p><!--more--><strong>Answer:</strong>   It depends on how much cash you plan to invest in credit spreads for the month.   It’s good not to put all of your eggs in one basket, so it’s probably not wise to invest more than 50% of your portfolio in a single, non-directional strategy such as credit spreads.  Let’s say you have a $100k portfolio and decide to allocate 45% of your portfolio to credit spreads for the next 30 days.  In this case you would open qty 45 of the RUT bull put spreads.   If you want to further diversify, which would be good idea, you would open a mix of RUT, OEX and SPY spreads, the underlying vehicles that we primarily focus on in the monthlycashthruoptions advisory service,  using the $45k.  Each RUT spread, which is a 10 point spread because we open RUT spreads with 10 points between the sell leg and buy leg, requires $1000 of maintenance to open 1 spread.  Each OEX spread, which is a 5 point spread because we open OEX spreads that have 5 points between the sell leg and buy leg, requires $500 of maintenance to open 1 spread.  Each SPY spread, which is a 2 point spread because we open SPY spreads that have 2 points between the sell leg and buy leg, requires $200 of maintenance to open 1 spread.   Back to our $45k, we would allocate $15k to the RUT spreads, $15k to the OEX spreads and $15k to the SPY spreads.   Thus, we would open 15 of the RUT spreads, 30 of the OEX spreads, and 75 of the SPY spreads.   One negative of opening 2 point wide spreads is that we open many more spreads for a given dollar amount, so commissions become a problem.  Thus, we do our best to open more 10 point wide spreads, and fewer 2 point wide spreads.</p>
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		<title>How to calculate risk capital on index credit spreads and iron condor options</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 00:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>bradrr</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Question:   I&#8217;m a current autotrtading customer with MCTO.  I have $20,000 of available cash in my account and I&#8217;ve set my autotrade rule to allocate $4K per trade.   I see that you recently opened a SPY Dec 108/111 bull put spread, which is a 3 point wide spread.  If I&#8217;m correct, this spread should require $300 of maintenance.   Because I&#8217;m [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Question</strong>:   I&#8217;m a current autotrtading customer with MCTO.  I have $20,000 of available cash in my account and I&#8217;ve set my autotrade rule to allocate $4K per trade.   I see that you recently opened a SPY Dec 108/111 bull put spread, which is a 3 point wide spread.  If I&#8217;m correct, this spread should require $300 of maintenance.   Because I&#8217;m allocating $4k per trade, I was expecting 13 of the SPY spreads to show up in my account;  however, 14 were openened.  Please explain why I got 14 of these spreads instead of the 13 that I was expecting.</p>
<p><span id="more-339"></span><strong>Answer</strong>:   The required cash (risk capital) to open a 3 point wide credit spread is the $300 of maintenance required by the broker, minus the premium that we collected when we first opened the spread.  For the SPY Dec 108/111 bull put spread, we brought in about $25 of premium per spread.  Thus, the actual risk capital per spread for this case is $300 &#8211; $25 = $275.  To calculate the number of spreads that would be opened in your autotrade account, you would divide your $4000 cash allocated per trade by $275, which equals 14 spreads.</p>
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		<title>Question about why we recommend two accounts when trading 10 point wide credit spreads on the RUT</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Oct 2010 05:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>bradrr</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Question:   Having a May RUT 550/560 bear call spread in one account and a May RUT 560/570 bear call spread in another account is exactly the same as having a single May RUT 550/570 bear call spread. The Profit and Loss is exactly the same. The net Greeks are the same. The margin required is [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Question:</strong>   Having a May RUT 550/560 bear call spread in one account and a May RUT 560/570 bear call spread in another account is exactly the same as having a single May RUT 550/570 bear call spread. The Profit and Loss is exactly the same. The net Greeks are the same. The margin required is the same as the total margin required for the two separate accounts. So it makes no sense to have two accounts. Just keep the net position in one account.</p>
<p><span id="more-325"></span><strong>Answer:</strong>   Yes, the risk reward for the credit spread is the same whether the spread is 10 points wide or 20 points wide.  However, we recommend that our subscribers have two accounts when trading 10 point wide credit spreads on the RUT because we want to maintain maximum flexibility to allow us to open the other side of the spread to complete the iron condor.   In order to complete an iron condor where maintenance is only held for one of the spreads, both the top bear call spread and the bottom bull put spread need to have the same point width between the sell leg and the buy leg.  (i.e. if we have a 10 point wide bull put spread, we have to open a 10 point wide bear call spread to complete the iron condor)    It is true that if we end up creating a 20 point wide spread on the bottom we can easily open a 20 point wide spread on the top to complete the iron condor&#8230;and this will work.  However, for most months it&#8217;s not that simple and we are alternating between opening the top spreads and the bottom spreads, and we are moving our strike prices around as the underlying index is moving, so it&#8217;s better to keep all of our spreads 10 points wide giving us maximum flexibility and the best chance to complete the iron condors on all of our trades.</p>
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		<title>Comparing Underlying Indexes to Trade Bear Call or Bull Put Credit Spread Options &#8211; RUT, IWM, SPX</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Sep 2010 05:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Question:  Can you tell me why you prefer RUT over SPY and SPY over SPX when opening credit spread options? Answer:   The RUT provides the best strike price placement, usually above past resistance levels and below past support levels, while paying a nice premium when opening a bear call or bull put credit spread options.  It [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Question</strong>:  Can you tell me why you prefer RUT over SPY and SPY over SPX when opening credit spread options?</p>
<p><span id="more-322"></span><strong>Answer</strong>:   The RUT provides the best strike price placement, usually above past resistance levels and below past support levels, while paying a nice premium when opening a bear call or bull put credit spread options.  It also has good liquidity, i.e. a high number of options contracts are traded daily on the RUT, which allows us to easily get into and out of our trades. </p>
<p>The next best underlying index to trade credit spread and iron condor options is the SPY, (and ETF that tracks at 1/10th of the value of the  S&amp;P 500 index &#8211; SPX) but in order to get the best return we need to open 2 point wide spreads, which has a drawback.  (a 2 point wide spread has two points between the leg that we sell and the leg that we buy)  The negative of a 2 point wide spread, as compared to a 10 point wide spread that we would open on the RUT, is that we have to open 5x the number of spreads to allocate the same amount of cash and this has higher commissions.  Also, the liquidity is very high on the SPY….i.e. a million or more options contracts change hands every day – and this is both good and bad.   The good part is that we can easily get in and out of trades….even during volatile times when the market is moving a lot.   The bad is that when the market is bouncing…and let’s say we need to make an adjustment or roll the spread, because there is so much liquidity we have to pay what the market is asking (between the bid and ask prices)  and we rarely can get a special low price that is outside the bidask price range.   On the other hand, if the market is moving a lot and we need to make an adjustment on the RUT, many times we’ll be able to get a cheap price that is outside of the bid/ask prices.</p>
<p>For a case study that compares and contrasts 2, 3, 4, 5 , 7 and 10 point wide credit spreads on the SPY please go to the Learning Center at <a href="http://www.monthlycashthruoptions.com/LearningCenter.htm">http://www.monthlycashthruoptions.com/LearningCenter.htm</a>  and read entry #6 – “why we usually open 2 and 3 point wide spreads on the SPY and IWM”.  </p>
<p>Regarding the SPX, you have to be super careful in trading credit spreads and iron condors on this underlying index.  I liken it to Hotel California….it&#8217;s really easy and everyone is friendly when you check in, but when things get ugly and you need to get out of your trade, you’ll usually get your head handed to you. (i.e. it will cost a lot to close out your spread and you’ll probably take at least a 25% loss)    Overall, do your best to avoid trading credit spreads on the SPX.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 20:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Question:  I have a question with regard to Iron Condors Options.  Generally, Iron Condors are good for neutral to uptrending markets.  If this is the case, do you see your system working given the current down climate. Answer:  I’m not sure I agree that Iron condors are good for uptrending markets.  Iron condors have both [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Question</strong>:  I have a question with regard to Iron Condors Options.   Generally, Iron Condors are good for neutral to uptrending markets.  If  this is the case, do you see your system working given the current down  climate.</p>
<p><span id="more-317"></span><strong>Answer</strong>:  I’m not sure I agree that Iron condors are good for uptrending markets.  Iron condors have both a short put and a short call and we want the underlying stock or index to stay above the short Put and below the short Call through expiration.   In general, with the 90% probability type of credit spreads that we open, we can handle the underlying index moving around 9%, but that’s about it….so it could be trending UP or DOWN, up to 9%,  but after this we’ll have to make an adjustment.</p>
<p>Right now, we&#8217;re not feeling comfortable in opening the June bear call spread since the market recently corrected 15% and it could rally hard if some good news comes in.  We just don’t know, but when a market pulls back so hard, it could also rally hard.  This is where I’m using more of the volume based indicators to help me gauge the prevailing trend and to predict trend reversals.  I’m feeling more comfortable in opening the June bull put spreads right now on the Russell 2000 index, RUT, as long as they are down several strike prices below the 200 day SMA and below the Feb low.</p>
<p>Answering your questions specifically, when sentiment/fear makes a market correct, like it just did where it recently pulled-back 15%, this is when we make some of our best returns;  and we primarily focus on one side, the bottom bull put spread.  If the volume based indicators continue to show choppiness over the next week, where it’s not showing a “go long” signal, we might consider opening the top spread….but not sure yet.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Question:   We are less than 2 weeks from options expiration for our RUT and SPY Feb bull put spread options, the DOW is UP today almos 200 points, how about if we were to open some Feb bear call spreads today and bring in some premium. Response:   I would wait a touch longer before jumping into the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Question</strong>:   We are less than 2 weeks from options expiration for our RUT and SPY Feb bull put spread options, the DOW is UP today almos 200 points, how about if we were to open some Feb bear call spreads today and bring in some premium.</p>
<p><strong>Response</strong>:   I would wait a touch longer before jumping into the bear call spreads, if at all.   For the RUT, it would be wise to set our short call at 650 or higher, which is the Jan high.  It’s pretty easy to get burned on the top spreads…so we need to be careful. </p>
<p><strong>Question</strong>:  But it&#8217;s interesting to notice with today&#8217;s market that even though the DOW is up almost 200 points, NASDAQ 30+ point, and S&amp;P 500 is up 16+, the Call options on these indexes aren&#8217;t moving up much.   Why isn&#8217;t there much premium on these call options?</p>
<p><strong>Response</strong>:    A lot of it comes down to supply and demand and currently there are few speculators that want to buy calls on the major indexes, and rightly so since we might still be in a correction, so the premiums that they are willing to pay are low.   Premiums are low anyway for OTM calls, especially when we&#8217;re down to the last 10 days of trade or less before expiration.    We know that  it’s difficult to push a boulder uphill and if we &#8216;re able to move it, it will move slowly;  however, if we let go it will start to roll down the hill quickly and momentum will build as gravity takes over.   Because the stock market is similar to a boulder on a hill,  we can charge the speculators more for Puts because there is more potential to make money on them if the market has a correction, versus the lower premiums that we are able to charge for the Calls.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Question:   If for some unfortunate reason we let a spread expire in the money, will the broker PUT the index shares to us, or because of the nature of the spread, will they only take the entire Maintenance?  Answer:   In a very rare occasion that we get stuck with ITM credit spreads, we will usually [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Question</strong>:   If for some unfortunate reason we let a spread expire in the money, will the broker PUT the index shares to us, or because of the nature of the spread, will they only take the entire Maintenance? </p>
<p><span id="more-294"></span><strong>Answer</strong>:   In a very rare occasion that we get stuck with ITM credit spreads, we will usually roll them and keep them alive….and eventually get 50% to 70% of our money back.   Unfortunately, and fortunately, I’ve become an expert on rolling because some of my spreads went ITM during the Oct 2008 crash, and after rolling them I got back 65% of my maintenance.   Not bad for a total melt-down.  (Just as a side note, most credit spread traders, including editor-in–chief’s from other credit spread newsletters don’t have experience in rolling because most just throw in the towel and let their subscribers take a total loss.  I personally hate to lose money and will fight to the end to get back at least some of my money) </p>
<p>Answering your question specifically, if some of our spreads went ITM and we didn’t want to roll them but just let them expire, the credit spread on the RUT and SPX (classified as broad based indexes) are cash settled, so cash would be withdrawn from our account.   If the spread went completely ITM and we let it expire, we would lose all of our risk capital, which is the required maintenance less the premium collected.</p>
<p>Per options on the SPY and IWM (which are ETFs that track at 1/10<sup>th</sup> the value of the S&amp;P 500 and Russell 2000 indexes, respectively) the ETF shares would be PUT to us where we have to buy the shares at the strike price and the shares would be deposited into our account.</p>
<p>Again, in general with this situation, and this is only for the emergency case where the stock market crashes 12% or more in just a few days and we get stuck with ITM bull put spreads, we will roll our spreads month to month and there is a very good chance we’ll get back at least half of our money, and more like 60% to 70%.</p>
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