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		<title>Question about setting autotrade amount per trade and how it impacts existing trades for Option Trading</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2011 00:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>bradrr</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Question:  If I increase my autotrade option trading amount to $10,000 per trade, but already have qty 8 of the RUT Dec 670/680 Bull Put Spread that was placed in my account when my autotrade amount was set to $8,000/trade, should I expect the autotrade service to know to handle only 8 contracts, for example [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Question</strong>:  If I increase my autotrade option trading amount to $10,000 per trade, but already have qty 8 of the RUT Dec 670/680 Bull Put Spread that was placed in my account when my autotrade amount was set to $8,000/trade, should I expect the autotrade service to know to handle only 8 contracts, for example if we were forced to roll the RUT Dec 670/680 bull put spread into January?</p>
<p><span id="more-396"></span><strong>Answer</strong>:  Yes, the Monthly Cash Thru Options autotrade option trading service would only roll 8 contracts of the RUT Dec 670/680 bull put spread into January, if we needed to roll it.  The new cash level per trade that you select for autotrading will not affect the existing spreads and adjustments that we make to them.  You can change your autotrade cash amount per trade at anytime, even mid-stream during the month,  and not impact existing trades.</p>
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		<title>Question about how credit spread and iron condor options on the RUT, and on other indexes that trade European style, settle and expire</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2011 17:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>bradrr</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Question:  I see that you closed out 1/2 of our RUT Feb 840/850 bear call spread position on Thursday, the week of expiration, in our autotrade accounts.  Can you please explain why you closed out this spread even though the underlying RUT index was trading safely near 834?   The RUT index seemed to be safely below our short RUT [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Question:</strong>  I see that you closed out 1/2 of our RUT Feb 840/850 bear call spread position on Thursday, the week of expiration, in our autotrade accounts.  Can you please explain why you closed out this spread even though the underlying RUT index was trading safely near 834?   The RUT index seemed to be safely below our short RUT Feb 840 call.  </p>
<p><span id="more-376"></span><strong>Answer:</strong>  Options on the RUT trade European style where they cease to trade on Thursday, in the week of expiration, and then the RUT settles on Friday.   For more on how European style options settle and expire please visit the FAQ Page at <a href="http://www.monthlycashthruoptions.com/FAQ.htm" target="_blank">http://www.monthlycashthruoptions.com/FAQ.htm</a>  and read entries #24 and #25.   If the underlying RUT index gets too close to our short Call on Thursday, in the week of expiration, we need to be careful since we don’t have any control over what value the RUT will settle at on Friday.  So we need to make sure that the RUT index stays a certain number points away from our short Call on Thursday, and if not we need to close it early to avoid settlement risk.   In this situation where we have the RUT Feb 840/850 bear call spread, the settlement value, RLS, needs to settle at 840 or less for us to keep 100% of the premium that we collected when we first opened the spread.</p>
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		<title>Question About Options Trading Strategy &#8211; Different Scenarios of a RUT Bear Call Credit Spread Option Expiring in-the-money (ITM) or out-of-the-money (OTM)</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Feb 2011 19:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>bradrr</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Question:  Hypothetically, for a credit spread options trading strategy,  if the RUT climbs and closes at 845 on Thursday, Feb 17th, the day that it ceases to trade, and then opens at 839 on expiration Friday, Feb 18th, did our RUT Feb 840/850 bear call credit spread option expire in-the-money (ITM)?  Answer:  Any time prior to Thursday, Feb [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Question:</strong>  Hypothetically, for a credit spread options trading strategy,  if the RUT climbs and closes at 845 on Thursday, Feb 17th, the day that it ceases to trade, and then opens at 839 on expiration Friday, Feb 18th, did our RUT Feb 840/850 bear call credit spread option expire in-the-money (ITM)? </p>
<p><span id="more-370"></span><strong>Answer:</strong>  Any time prior to Thursday, Feb 17<sup>th</sup> when the RUT ceases to trade after the close of the market, if the RUT climbs over 840 the short 840 Call has gone ITM, and we never want to get to this point.  We would adjust the RUT Feb 840/850 bear call spread when the RUT touches 837 or so.  </p>
<p>Specifically answering your question, if the RUT settles at 839 on Friday, your short 840 call expired OTM and you keep 100% of the premium that you collected when you first opened the RUT Feb 840/850 bear call spread.  If the RUT settles at 843 on expiration Friday, your short 840 call expired $3 ITM and $300 per spread that you are holding would be debited from of your account.  If the RUT settles at 847 on expiration Friday, your short 840 call expired $7 ITM and $700 per spread that you are holding would be debited from of your account.  Using a final example, if the RUT settles at 856 on expiration Friday, your short 840 call expired $16 ITM, but only $1000 per spread that you are holding would be debited from of your account because the long 850 Call helped to limit your loss to $1000.  The settlement value is different from the “opening value of the RUT” on Friday morning of expiration.  It&#8217;s important to understand how the settlement value is calculated.  For more on the settlement process please visit the FAQ page at <a href="http://www.monthlycashthruoptions.com/FAQ.htm">http://www.monthlycashthruoptions.com/FAQ.htm</a> and read entries #24 and #25.</p>
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		<title>Question about how many RUT, SPX, SPY or OEX credit spread options to open in a particular month</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 00:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>bradrr</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Question:   How many contracts would you normally sell a month? 5?, 10? Answer:   It depends on how much cash you plan to invest in credit spreads for the month.   It’s good not to put all of your eggs in one basket, so it’s probably not wise to invest more than 50% of your portfolio in [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><span id="more-351"></span>Question:</strong>   How many contracts would you normally sell a month? 5?, 10?</p>
<p><!--more--><strong>Answer:</strong>   It depends on how much cash you plan to invest in credit spreads for the month.   It’s good not to put all of your eggs in one basket, so it’s probably not wise to invest more than 50% of your portfolio in a single, non-directional strategy such as credit spreads.  Let’s say you have a $100k portfolio and decide to allocate 45% of your portfolio to credit spreads for the next 30 days.  In this case you would open qty 45 of the RUT bull put spreads.   If you want to further diversify, which would be good idea, you would open a mix of RUT, OEX and SPY spreads, the underlying vehicles that we primarily focus on in the monthlycashthruoptions advisory service,  using the $45k.  Each RUT spread, which is a 10 point spread because we open RUT spreads with 10 points between the sell leg and buy leg, requires $1000 of maintenance to open 1 spread.  Each OEX spread, which is a 5 point spread because we open OEX spreads that have 5 points between the sell leg and buy leg, requires $500 of maintenance to open 1 spread.  Each SPY spread, which is a 2 point spread because we open SPY spreads that have 2 points between the sell leg and buy leg, requires $200 of maintenance to open 1 spread.   Back to our $45k, we would allocate $15k to the RUT spreads, $15k to the OEX spreads and $15k to the SPY spreads.   Thus, we would open 15 of the RUT spreads, 30 of the OEX spreads, and 75 of the SPY spreads.   One negative of opening 2 point wide spreads is that we open many more spreads for a given dollar amount, so commissions become a problem.  Thus, we do our best to open more 10 point wide spreads, and fewer 2 point wide spreads.</p>
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		<title>Why not open credit spreads and iron condors on the SPX, the S&amp;P 500 index, instead of the SPY an ETF?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Oct 2010 06:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>bradrr</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Question:  Given that the SPY is essentially 1/10 of SPX what is the point of having spreads on both? You need to buy and sell 10 times as many options on SPY to have a trade equivalent to a SPX credit spread so the commissions are worse. The tax treatment is worse. And the options are [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Question:</strong>  Given that the SPY is essentially 1/10 of SPX what is the point of having spreads on both? You need to buy and sell 10 times as many options on SPY to have a trade equivalent to a SPX credit spread so the commissions are worse. The tax treatment is worse. And the options are American, so there is at least the possibility of being stuck with early assignment on the short options.</p>
<p><span id="more-330"></span><strong>Answer:  </strong> Trading credit spreads on the SPX, the S&amp;P 500 index, is like the Roach Hotel&#8230;.you can check in, but you can&#8217;t check out.  Opening credit spreads on the SPX seems to be just fine and it feels great to bring in a solid 9% premium on a 90% probability spread that has less than 30 days to expiration.   However, even though there is a lot of liquidity on the SPX options, it doesn&#8217;t act like it where if our trade gets into trouble, it will cost 20% to 30% of our risk capital to make an adjustment, such as rolling it into the same month or rolling it into the following month.   In other words, we won&#8217;t have many chances to roll our spread if it gets into trouble and we&#8217;ll pretty much be taking a 50% to 60% loss after rolling it just 2 times, which is not good.  When trading credit spreads on the RUT, for example, if our spreads unexpectedly go in-the-money, it&#8217;s quite possible to roll it for 6 to 9 months, if required, and we can still get back at least 50% of our maintenance, and sometimes as high as 70% of the original maintenance.   One possible reason that it&#8217;s difficult and expensive to make adjustments on SPX credit spreads is that it&#8217;s only traded on one exchange, the CBOE, and not on the other 7 exchanges.   In contrast, options on the RUT are traded on 6 exchanges, and options on the SPY are traded on all 8 exchanges.  It seems that the more exchanges the options are traded on, the more competition there is and thus the cheaper it is to make adjustments on the trade if necessary.</p>
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		<title>Question about why we recommend two accounts when trading 10 point wide credit spreads on the RUT</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Oct 2010 05:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>bradrr</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Question:   Having a May RUT 550/560 bear call spread in one account and a May RUT 560/570 bear call spread in another account is exactly the same as having a single May RUT 550/570 bear call spread. The Profit and Loss is exactly the same. The net Greeks are the same. The margin required is [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Question:</strong>   Having a May RUT 550/560 bear call spread in one account and a May RUT 560/570 bear call spread in another account is exactly the same as having a single May RUT 550/570 bear call spread. The Profit and Loss is exactly the same. The net Greeks are the same. The margin required is the same as the total margin required for the two separate accounts. So it makes no sense to have two accounts. Just keep the net position in one account.</p>
<p><span id="more-325"></span><strong>Answer:</strong>   Yes, the risk reward for the credit spread is the same whether the spread is 10 points wide or 20 points wide.  However, we recommend that our subscribers have two accounts when trading 10 point wide credit spreads on the RUT because we want to maintain maximum flexibility to allow us to open the other side of the spread to complete the iron condor.   In order to complete an iron condor where maintenance is only held for one of the spreads, both the top bear call spread and the bottom bull put spread need to have the same point width between the sell leg and the buy leg.  (i.e. if we have a 10 point wide bull put spread, we have to open a 10 point wide bear call spread to complete the iron condor)    It is true that if we end up creating a 20 point wide spread on the bottom we can easily open a 20 point wide spread on the top to complete the iron condor&#8230;and this will work.  However, for most months it&#8217;s not that simple and we are alternating between opening the top spreads and the bottom spreads, and we are moving our strike prices around as the underlying index is moving, so it&#8217;s better to keep all of our spreads 10 points wide giving us maximum flexibility and the best chance to complete the iron condors on all of our trades.</p>
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		<title>Question about Iron Condor Options and if it will work in the current down environment</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 20:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>bradrr</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Question:  I have a question with regard to Iron Condors Options.  Generally, Iron Condors are good for neutral to uptrending markets.  If this is the case, do you see your system working given the current down climate. Answer:  I’m not sure I agree that Iron condors are good for uptrending markets.  Iron condors have both [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Question</strong>:  I have a question with regard to Iron Condors Options.   Generally, Iron Condors are good for neutral to uptrending markets.  If  this is the case, do you see your system working given the current down  climate.</p>
<p><span id="more-317"></span><strong>Answer</strong>:  I’m not sure I agree that Iron condors are good for uptrending markets.  Iron condors have both a short put and a short call and we want the underlying stock or index to stay above the short Put and below the short Call through expiration.   In general, with the 90% probability type of credit spreads that we open, we can handle the underlying index moving around 9%, but that’s about it….so it could be trending UP or DOWN, up to 9%,  but after this we’ll have to make an adjustment.</p>
<p>Right now, we&#8217;re not feeling comfortable in opening the June bear call spread since the market recently corrected 15% and it could rally hard if some good news comes in.  We just don’t know, but when a market pulls back so hard, it could also rally hard.  This is where I’m using more of the volume based indicators to help me gauge the prevailing trend and to predict trend reversals.  I’m feeling more comfortable in opening the June bull put spreads right now on the Russell 2000 index, RUT, as long as they are down several strike prices below the 200 day SMA and below the Feb low.</p>
<p>Answering your questions specifically, when sentiment/fear makes a market correct, like it just did where it recently pulled-back 15%, this is when we make some of our best returns;  and we primarily focus on one side, the bottom bull put spread.  If the volume based indicators continue to show choppiness over the next week, where it’s not showing a “go long” signal, we might consider opening the top spread….but not sure yet.</p>
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		<title>Question about closing just the short call leg and letting the long call leg ride</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Question:   Per our RUT Mar 680/690 bear call spread, if I want, can I just close out the short leg of the  spread?  That is I &#8221;buy to close&#8221; the short 680 call an leave the long 690 call open.  Would this be expensive, and a good strategy? Answer:   You could if you wish, but I don’t recommend it.  [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Question</strong>:   Per our RUT Mar 680/690 bear call spread, if I want, can I just close out the short leg of the  spread?  That is I &#8221;buy to close&#8221; the short 680 call an leave the long 690 call open.  Would this be expensive, and a good strategy?</p>
<p><span id="more-308"></span><strong>Answer</strong>:   You could if you wish, but I don’t recommend it.  In order to buy back the short leg it will be really expensive.  And, I’m not convinced that the market will climb any more.  On the other hand, if I thought the market was going to continue to rally for the next week, this would be a good strategy.  Let&#8217;s look at the numbers as of March 11, 2010:</p>
<p> To close out the RUT Mar 680/690 bear call spread it would cost a debit of $2.55</p>
<p>To BTC the 680 leg it would cost a debit of $3.85</p>
<p>To STC the 690 leg we would collect $1.30 credit</p>
<p>3.85-1.30=$2.55</p>
<p> You can see that if we just hold onto the long 690 call, it will cost us $1.30 and the RUT would need to continue to rally in order for this long 690 call to pay off.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Question:   If for some unfortunate reason we let a spread expire in the money, will the broker PUT the index shares to us, or because of the nature of the spread, will they only take the entire Maintenance?  Answer:   In a very rare occasion that we get stuck with ITM credit spreads, we will usually [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Question</strong>:   If for some unfortunate reason we let a spread expire in the money, will the broker PUT the index shares to us, or because of the nature of the spread, will they only take the entire Maintenance? </p>
<p><span id="more-294"></span><strong>Answer</strong>:   In a very rare occasion that we get stuck with ITM credit spreads, we will usually roll them and keep them alive….and eventually get 50% to 70% of our money back.   Unfortunately, and fortunately, I’ve become an expert on rolling because some of my spreads went ITM during the Oct 2008 crash, and after rolling them I got back 65% of my maintenance.   Not bad for a total melt-down.  (Just as a side note, most credit spread traders, including editor-in–chief’s from other credit spread newsletters don’t have experience in rolling because most just throw in the towel and let their subscribers take a total loss.  I personally hate to lose money and will fight to the end to get back at least some of my money) </p>
<p>Answering your question specifically, if some of our spreads went ITM and we didn’t want to roll them but just let them expire, the credit spread on the RUT and SPX (classified as broad based indexes) are cash settled, so cash would be withdrawn from our account.   If the spread went completely ITM and we let it expire, we would lose all of our risk capital, which is the required maintenance less the premium collected.</p>
<p>Per options on the SPY and IWM (which are ETFs that track at 1/10<sup>th</sup> the value of the S&amp;P 500 and Russell 2000 indexes, respectively) the ETF shares would be PUT to us where we have to buy the shares at the strike price and the shares would be deposited into our account.</p>
<p>Again, in general with this situation, and this is only for the emergency case where the stock market crashes 12% or more in just a few days and we get stuck with ITM bull put spreads, we will roll our spreads month to month and there is a very good chance we’ll get back at least half of our money, and more like 60% to 70%.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Question:    I have been reading the FAQs  on your site.  When reading the:   What % of my trading capital should I use in a single day? I ran into a problem.  It advises filling a Bear Credit Call for May in two tiered steps as follows : Buy to open RUT May 560 call  Sell [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Question</strong>:    I have been reading the FAQs  on your site.  When reading the:   <strong>What % of my trading capital should I use in a single day?</strong> I ran into a problem.  It advises filling a Bear Credit Call for May in two tiered steps as follows :</p>
<p>Buy to open RUT May 560 call </p>
<p>Sell to open RUT May 550 call  -   For a credit of 40 to 65 cents.</p>
<p>Then it goes on to say:   If the market continues to climb, and if this spread is now filling for 68 cents, for example, we would suspend fills on this spread, per the directions in the advisory above, and we would &#8221;click-up&#8221; to the RUT May 560/570 bear call spread and repeat the process of &#8220;collecting&#8221; premium on the days where it&#8217;s filling for at least 40 cents, but no more than 65 cents.   But are you not then overlapping this new spread with the previous one and thus opening up a 20 point spread of May 550 / May 570 ? The May 560s will cancel each other out.  Would this then require trading in 2 separate accounts ?</p>
<p><span id="more-290"></span><strong>Response</strong>:    Yes, when trading 10 point wide spreads, like what we do with the RUT, we need two accounts.  That is, we need two accounts if we want to be nimble and click-up and click-down our strike prices as the underlying index moves, which ultimately reduces our risk.  Some credit spread traders/newsletters don’t click-up/down during the month, which is rather unfortunate because this increases risk, and you wouldn’t need two accounts.  Per how we do it at MCTO, we do recommend for our subscribers to have two accounts. </p>
<p>One way of eliminating the need for two accounts is to mix RUT credit spreads with IWM credit spreads.   The IWM is an ETF that tracks at 1/10<sup>th</sup>of the RUT.   For example, if we recommend the RUT 570/580 bear call spread (which is a 10 point wide spread…i.e. 10 points between the buy and sell legs), the IWM 57/59 bear call spread (which is a 2 point wide spread) has almost the same risk/reward profile.  So for example, let’s say we first open the RUT 570/580 bear call spread.  One week later the RUT rallies and we decide that we need to click-up to move further away from the underlying index.  Because we want to do our best to maintain 10 point wide spreads in our account, we shouldn’t put the RUT 580/590 into the same account that already has the RUT 570/580 since this would create a RUT 570/590 bear call spread, which is 20 points wide.  So an option is to put the IWM 58/60 bear call spread into the account.  Then if the RUT continues to rally and we decide to click-up again, we go back to the RUT and put the RUT 590/600 in the account…..etc.  We also call this “layering” our spreads.  The disadvantage, however, of opening 2 point wide spreads is that higher commissions eat into our returns, so it’s best to use low cost options brokers, like eOption or TradeKing.</p>
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